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Thursday, December 08, 2005

include akum in eruv II (Eruvin 64a)

In order to ameliorate the situation of a Goy that won't rent his property in a movoi for Eruv purposes, Rava (on the top of 64a) says that "one Yid should go and befriend the goy (Likriv LeGabay) and borrow a spot in the movoi from him and the Yid should place something in that spot", which is effective for allowing the movoi to have an Eruv. Rashi comments on Likriv LeGabay, "work with the Goy until he is the Yid's friend...".

Is it not ironic that the reason that one must rent the property of a Goy who lives in a movoi with Yiddin is solely because the Chachomim sought to discourage us from living with them, yet Rava's solution to the problem of a Goy living in a movoi with Yiddin who will not rent his property is to befriend the Goy?

Did anyone see any Meforshim that comment on this?

3 Comments:

At 10:27 AM, Blogger David said...

Good point. It is ironic but I haven't seen anyone comment on it.

 
At 10:24 AM, Blogger David said...

R' Tendler suggested this morning that in this case the guy is "befriending" the goy for a specific purpose and we're not afraid of his learning from his behavior. He'll remember what and why he's doing it. However, we want to discourage someone from living and becoming friends with the guy under normal circumstances.

 
At 8:12 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very interesting point.
In my daf shiur when we learned this, we learned that you are befriending the goy, but it is not really a friendship. It seems to be more a "haarama" - befriending him with an ulterior motive. After you get the permission to leave your stuff by him, you do not have to keep up the great friendship..

 

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