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Wednesday, May 25, 2005

Ner Chanuka over kiddush (Shabbos 23b)

The gemara says that if you can only do ner Chanuka or Kiddush on Friday night then you should light Chanuka candles. Someone asked this morning how could ner chanuka take precedence over kiddush which is a d'oraysa.

The Ran answers that the case must be that you also have bread and that works m'doraysa. The gemara had the hava amina that even though you're yotzei the mitzva it's still better to make kiddush on wine so that would take precedence over Chanuka but the gemara answers that pirsumei nisa adif.

The Ritva says even if you had no bread, you were yotzei your mitzva d'oraysa in shul.

The Hagaos Ashri argues and says that our gemara must hold that you can't make kiddush on bread otherwise ner Chanuka wouldn't take precedence.

1 Comments:

At 1:10 PM, Blogger A yid said...

The Hagaos Ashri says that our gemara must hold that you can't make kiddush on bread, otherwise it would be obvious that Ner Chanukah does take precedence and the Gemara would not ask it as a question.

The answer of the Ran would not work for the Hagaos Ashri, however he could hold like the answer of the Ritva.

 

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